Comments on: Dr. Paul Martin of Wellspring Retreat said…

By: Admin

Admin — Tue, 18 May 2010 16:26:54 +0000

Randall,
Thank you for reminding me of that “searching” time. Yes, “publicly berated” would be a correct assessment. Why, how dare you say you are “saved” or “being saved” when “you don’t walk in the that place in God?” Oh, I feel another post coming on… I agree with your rememberance of those times.

John

By: Randall Jones

Randall Jones — Sun, 16 May 2010 22:28:30 +0000

Hi, it is interesting about the word, “cult”. In one of the history books that our children used in Word of Faith Fellowship Christian School, it gave a definition of “cult”. It stated (paraphrased here), that a cult tries to get to God through works. That really struck me. Here is an Abeka school book being used in the Christian School of WOF and it defined the church. To me, the church was all about works. You had to do this and this and this or you were in sin. You had to . work here and here at night. If you did not do this you were going to hell. You had to open up your heart to only certain ministers, if you did not you were in sin. So, it was never a personal relationship with Jesus…it was what were you were doing within the church. The church keeps you busy with “works”, it is something every minute. You do not have time to talk to your own family. If you worked hard and opened your heart to ministeres, you were okay. It was fun to hear the people open their hearts enough to stay out of trouble. It was like they knew exactly what to say. Many years ago, Jane posed the question to the church about if they are really saved. If you felt like you were not saved, you had to sit on one side of the church. Then, other members of the family were scolded from the pulpit for not making their families serve God and be saved. Many were on the side that were not saved. I definitely searched my heart and felt that I had that relationship with Jesus. But, the pressure to even acknowledge that you knew you were saved was hard. It was easier to be on the side that did not know. Because if you sat on the side that did know they were saved, your salvation was questioned publicly by the ministers in the church. I know myself and others just sat on the side that was not saved so not to have the public berating that you really are not saved. Again, these are memories I have and may not apply to everyone.

By: vs

vs — Sat, 10 Apr 2010 20:46:12 +0000

Hi John… I do enjoy this blog. I am not surprized by the ‘attention” you are getting from those at WOFF! Personally, it is still hard for me to say the word cult outloud concerning my time there. Only because when I do I always think to myself – How in the world did I ever fall for all that ? And I did hook,line and sinker. Until one when I was told that 1) I did not need friends outside of the “fellowship” and 2) the “fellowship” cared more about me than my natural family and then of course when thinking about the move up there I was told that I would need work in a different field of nursing so I would not rely on what I knew ( or was comfortable with) but needed something “different” of authority’s choosing. And just where did my ability in that field come from but God Himself!? One of the last things my Daddy talked to me about was the mind control up in Spindale and to get my son home. He was esp. upset after meeting the couple that my son was living with. This was a week before Daddy died and they said he did not look “that sick”. He lived 2 wks longer than the doctors said he would .Having been apart of that cult has caused some walls within my relationship with my family, but God is faithful and bring complete restoration to us. They know that I love them and am not “looking down” on them as they felt before. I am sure those reading this from WOFF have figured out who vs is!! I don’t care. I HAVE NOTHING TO ASHAMED ABOUT. GOD LOVES ME AND HAS SAVED ME AND I AM SERVING HIM WITH ALL MY HEART. HE TOTALLY ACCEPTS ME!! More later. Keep up this good work!! ( oh yeah and they can not comment on how much weight I have GAINED since I left!! Wonder if they say anything about how much weight I have LOST!!! LOL LOL