Exclusive Brethren – Similar to WOFF?

     This week, I was made aware of information about a group called the “Exclusive Brethren”. The information given about their practices sounded eerily familiar. Before I proceed and as a review, I spent 16 years either direct or indirectly under the teachings of Jane Whaley. She leads the Word of Faith Fellowship (WOFF) of Spindale, NC. In comparison, I have much more knowledge about WOFF than the Exclusive Brethren. That is almost too obvious to mention except that if a reader accuses me of an error in my comparison, then my deficiency would be in knowledge about the Exclusive Brethren. My intimate working knowledge is of WOFF. Does that seem plausible? Can that WOFF knowledge be easily disputed?

   In reality, I do not consider Wikipedia® to be the know all, tell all, rock solid source for information. However, the article was sourced and I did follow the links and read the sources for the information in this post. I found the correlations between the two groups amazing to say the least. In this post, I will list main points and encourage you to follow the links toward the end of this post for further reading.

   “The Exclusive Brethren are a subset of the Christian evangelical movement generally described as the Plymouth Brethren. They are distinguished from the Open Brethren from whom they separated in 1848, the Exclusive Brethren movement subsequently evolving into two main branches.” This is the opening line from Wikipedia.com found here.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exclusive_Brethren#cite_note-bbc.co.uk-6  Exclusive Brethren have been around for much longer than WOFF. I do not find that comforting knowing they have had many more years to treat people in the manner described in these source articles. The Wikipedia article goes on to explain the characteristics of the two main branches. The one which is described as the “Raven/Taylor/Hales group” have had the most criticism concerning “cult” like practices.

   

    From here, I will list a few of the points made about the Raven/Taylor/Hales group and relate it to what I know about WOFF.

–      This sub-group (Raven/Taylor/Hales) has been accused of emotional manipulation and brain washing as a means of maintaining power and control.     Yes, WOFF has been accused of that also.

–      Members who leave or who are expelled from the group have often been treated with what outsiders may regard as great cruelty.       Okay, this is where my interest began to grow. There is evidence of this at WOFF.

 –     Leavers (from Rave/Taylor/Hales) are shunned by members of the group because leavers are seen as having chosen the world and the devil against God, and because they could bring members into contact with the sinful world.[7]. The Brethren have been accused of using their considerable wealth and power to ‘punish’ members who have decided to leave the church and to have allegedly actively used their influence to split families up in order to protect the organization’s interests [8].        Well, what do other former members have to say about this? Have any former members of WOFF been shunned? It would be a silly question if it weren’t such a common cruel happening.

 –     For the most part, members who have left the Raven/Taylor/Hales group are completely ostracized. Members are not permitted to live with those who have left and this causes families to break up; in fact, remaining members do not even speak, eat or otherwise socialize with those who have left the group’s membership. To leave the group, either voluntarily or to be excommunicated, means to be asked to leave one’s home, and the subsequent breaking of all normal family relationships with those who remain within the group.[7]         As I read this, I began to gasp and think back on the last 26 months. Do other former WOFF members see any similarities here? This group is a lot like FLDS in this regard, also. See the link here for a previous post on this blog— https://religiouscultsinfo.com/?p=498

 –      Since virtually all of the Raven/Taylor/Hales members work in other members’ companies, to leave the group means also that they have to give up their jobs, in addition to their family and their home.[7]       I have personal experience with this inside of WOFF. Are there others? Okay, I know there are. How many are there that have had this happen to them? I worked for a church-member owned company- twice; same company with the same results. I hope to find out more about the Exclusive Brethren and what kind of companies they owned where church members worked. Would anyone be surprised if at least one was a construction company?

 –      Accusations by former teachers in Raven/Taylor/Hales group schools that the group ‘brainwashes’ children[4] in order to control everything that children do in life; a former teacher was quoted as saying “the children are told what jobs they will do and who they will marry. They were not being equipped to live in the outside world”.[4]  WOFF has their school. It is closed to those students not in the church, unless you are a relative of Jane. Academically, the students do well. Socially, I have my doubts.  What would other former members have to say? I know WOFF students are “guided” in their studies and “guided” in their relationships.

 –       That the Raven/Taylor/Hales group has engaged in a ruthless campaign of silencing critics and has vigorously used private detectives, lawyers and the threat of law suits in order to silence those that oppose it. A notable case is the group’s efforts and subsequent lawsuit in the USA aimed at closing down the web site peebs.net [1].[9      This sounds horrible. Would WOFF or more specifically – Jane Whaley do any of this? Certainly, the “religious freedom” afforded groups like WOFF would not allow them to silence critics who exercise their own freedom of speech? Could that happen in America?

      All of the above quotes are taken from Wikipedia. My observations are from my time inside and then outside WOFF. Do any of these accusations against the branch of the Exclusive Brethren sound familiar to ex-WOFF members or members of the community around WOFF? Do WOFF members who read this think there could be a reason for the seemingly similar characteristics of both groups? Would that reason have anything to do with leaders and leadership of each group wanting to control the lives of members? Do you think so?

   As if these were not enough,  I continued reading some of the sources. Other things came to light that seemed VERY familiar. Here are a couple of examples. Concerning Exclusive Brethren:  

   “Families do not have televisions, radios, or go to the cinema or theatre. Members marry other members. Divorce is rare. Children are often educated within the Brethren community, although many Brethren children do attend mainstream schools.

   Members who do something against the Exclusive code are required to confess their sin and demonstrate their repentance. If they don’t, they are withdrawn from: no member of the group will speak, work or eat with them.”

Found here.. http://www.bbc.co.uk/religion/religions/christianity/subdivisions/exclusivebrethren_1.shtml

   Does that sound like WOFF all over or what? Would WOFF members be able to fellowship with members of this group? Not every practice is the same in each group. From a brief reading, the Exclusive Brethren seem more “exclusive”. But, that is in comparison to WOFF. That should not lend WOFF any degree of normalcy, for sure; WOFF is definitely a non-normal group, also. Each group has rules that delve deep into the personal, daily lives of members.

   From the same source, leaders for the Exclusive Brethren seem strangely like Jane Whaley in some regards…

  “The leader is regarded as a person of inherent moral power…. The leader of the church has great influence over members of the sect. He gives guidance, resolves disputes, and can advise on action to be taken for breaches of discipline. The leader has the authority to convey new light from God appropriate to modern times.”

   Well, could all this be said of Jane – and more? What am I missing? Okay, Jane is the first leader of WOFF and so far, the only leader. She has such concentrated and absolute power over members. Will that ever change?

    Finally, it should come as no surprise that the Exclusive Brethren have had former members with serious custody battles for children still in the group. That is one common trait between the two groups that is so sad and tragic. Read the article here. This father has had a tremendous battle. http://www.theage.com.au/national/exbrethren-father-loses-battle-for-children-20090627-d0lc.html 

    So, what have we learned? Groups like WOFF are more common than most folks know. Here is a quote from a leader in another country about the Exclusive Brethren … “Kevin Rudd, former Prime Minister of Australia, said in 2007: “I believe this is an extremist cult and sect,” and “They split families and I am deeply concerned about their impact on communities across Australia.” [10]. Could WOFF be accused of splitting families, also? So, how are you doing? Shall we pray?

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      (Please, take time to read the Terms of Use for this personal blog. As mentioned, the information about WOFF is from my memories and recollections as perfect as that may be or not be. ) Scripture references are Amplified Version unless otherwise noted. (Copyright © 1954, 1958, 1962, 1964, 1965, 1987 by The Lockman Foundation ) This is post number 190.

4 thoughts on “Exclusive Brethren – Similar to WOFF?”

  1. Yeah mad cult the Exclusive Brethren.But Kevin Rudd was all bark and no bite.Someone soon silenced him once he was voted into government.Faith rules.Some of us had hoped something might finally be done about all the abuse our families suffered.But no.

    I just watched a YouTube video on that “blasting” thing from the group you left ,WoW .Thats some crazy stuff too.

  2. Paul,

    Thank you, for taking time to read and comment. Are present and former members treated as was mentioned in the post?
    If you feel there are more similarities to mention, please let me know.
    author@religiouscults.info.com The video you watched did not tell the whole story, but it was a start.

    John

  3. Hi John.

    Its my pleasure to comment. I just find it all a little sad to know others suffer these same things also.Yes mostly things are still much like documented in your post, i saw nothing that didnt seem correct.Of course there has been much other crazy stuff such as rules with regards to not swimming at beaches or public pools or rule even against members owning pools.And rules against men wearing shorts.Or rules against joining sports teams or even going fishing or hunting.And real silly stuff like sewer pipes not being allowed to connect with the worldly neighbours sewer pipes like on right of way sections on shared driveways before the sewers meet the road way,at one time you were expected to have your own special sewer pipes.And if you owned a flat with any common shared walls with worldly neighbours, you might need to build another false wall with a gap between. And businesses sending mail to worldly customers with attachments ,should only use paper clips, not staple them onto the page. A staple might be considdered as wrongfully “yoked together” with worldly.

    These rules and regulations were endless and full of madness. Some still remain , while others have been relaxed a little ,due to need of business and making money or else due to public pressure from looking rather stupid from having such silly rules.

    Regarding what you wrote .Sadly Raven/Taylor/Hales group later also split into many more other small groups as well including the Renton Brethren and Kelly Brethren and Strang Brethren and Booth/Glanton brethren to name a few. From Scandles and power trip schisms and squabbles and what not .The Exclusive brethren stayed the largest group.The biggest split came from James Taylor scandle http://peebs.net/Aberdeen_Incident/aberdeen-incident.php Another opinion of what happened http://rogerstott.co.uk/writingsdocs/writings/TheSchism1959-60.html and another site for even more info with regards to matter of Plymouth Brethren http://www.mybrethren.org/sitefram.htm

    With regards to what you wrote about job loss .Not only would some members lose there job,but they might also find the exclusive brethren will sometime try to see that they cant get any another job in the same town either.Read about this one account of one ex member named Murray Turley, a 56-year-old pilot who lost his job due to Exclusive Brethren pressure on a airline company he worked for , its recorded part way down this page which is all about some cases of the nastiness of this group http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=230&Itemid=8

    You wondered what kinds of companies they owned ,yes construction companies and all sorts, specially including much manufacturing ,but not many businesses that require any university skills.

    School library books are all highly censored ,very little sex education is taught in school and evolution is a big no ,pages to do with these type subjects are all covered over or ripped out.The members are not taught in universities ,so they dont have doctors or lawyers or even teachers etc.

  4. You wondered if they might try to silence critics in America ,well maybe they do in very subtle ways.Such as having very deep pockets with endless ammounts of money for lawyers and the ability to string cases out until people go broke and often can just no longer afford to stand up to them.Here is one case. http://scholar.google.co.nz/scholar_case?case=14284900413619058069&q=Bible+%26+Gospel+Trust+v.+Twinam&hl=en&as_sdt=2002&as_vis=1 and little more about it here 6th comment down http://bbc.quist.ca/bb/viewtopic.php?f=33&t=610&start=15

    With regards to members put under assembly displine, this is called being “shut up” which means they will be seperated away from the assembly and any other family member not “shut up” whom they will not be allowed normal contact with.Neither can they associate with worldly people during this time in any social kind of way , and demonstrating their repentance might even take months or sometimes even years until they are finally accepted back into fellowship again.This happens if the local heavy leaders and the world leader agree.And some members have tried for years to get back into fellowship this way keeping seperate the whole time faithful in hope of being returned to fellowship ,only to die sad lonely heartbroken people having never gotten to see their loved ones, including a husband or wife or children ever again.

    And no members could never ever fellowship with your group, or any other group .They would soon find themselves promptly excommunicated if they did and got caught .

    Leaders authority is thought of almost like God .Ministry is thought of rather like books of the bible written by prophets.Sometimes in meeting when the world leader enters the room , its like the Queen or Royality has just entered the building , people are already seated and waiting in great reverence for him to enter and may even remain reverently seated again as he leaves.

    More info http://www.caic.org.au/zbrethren.htm

    Hope this information is interesting and a little useful to you John .Please excuse me if i have doubled up on any links you already had.I didnt check the links out, to be honest it all makes me feel rather sick just looking at it all .Its all a bit of a nightmare.

    With regards to your comment about the video not telling the whole story , i understand what you say .I hope you understand there will be those who will try to deny stuff with regards to the Exclusive Brethren too .They have power and big business and lots of money , and worldly people who like making money through dealing with them , and also a way of treating “outsiders” with a type of “love bombing” and all manner of niceties “specially designed” to try to make themselves look all sweet and rosy and like they would never even harm a lamb .

    Paul.

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