Comments on: Trust? After WOFF?

By: vs

vs — Sat, 11 Sep 2010 21:54:24 +0000

Randall, No I don’t see anyone from WOFF. If they see me they do not acknowledge me (surprize) But I do agree with you!!! I do not trust those at WOFF. It is just as you say. I pray for much peace and success for you and your family. Yes UPWARD AND ONWARD GODSPEED TO US!!!

By: Randall Jones

Randall Jones — Fri, 10 Sep 2010 19:29:10 +0000

VS,
That is true, we can trust our Father completely. When I left WOFF, I knew I could trust my heavenly Father. Because, He helped me get out of WOFF. I waited on Him to tell me, now is the time to leave. I trusted him. My family trusted me to say, now we leave. It is odd how easy it is to trust friends and family outside of WOFF. But, those inside, especially leadership, no, I would not trust them. I do know if you see anyone from WOFF you cannot tell them anything without it being told to Jane and then eventually from the pulpit (especially if it is bad in their eyes). Upward and onward with our lives!!

By: vs

vs — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 17:12:37 +0000

Being able to trust again after WOFF IS an issue. You know the funny thing is I remember JANE saying more than once That she trusted no one ABSOLUTE!!! Her words not mine (I would have said absolutely, or completely) Yet we were taught and told to trust church leadership COMPLETELY, yet JANE stated that she DID NOT. I wanted NOTHING to do with ORGANIZED RELIGION after WOFF. But I wanted everything to do with my FATHER. It took me several years to find a church, but I have!!!! It is not religious, but GOD loving and fearing and teaches about FATHER. We do not “stand on ceremony” but on the words of and from our FATHER. So yes, I have learned to trust again. In some ways I never stopped trusting my friends. I never would not trust you John!!! But, I realize that we are all only humans and can make mistakes….but I think only a few misguided folks want to hurt others. Some people do that to try and make themselves look better. I feel that by sharing your thoughts and experieces on this blog you are trying( and succeeding!!) and helping others that have and are coming out of such mind controlling places like WOFF. I do think you are doing a great service to so many. I pray for loved ones still in that place. But, back to trust. I have learned that NO MATTER WHAT I CAN ALWAYS TRUST MY WONDERFUL LOVING FATHER!!!! and I am still in the process of learning to trust others on a daily basis. Love and hugs and prayers to you, my friend!!!!

By: Randall Jones

Randall Jones — Thu, 09 Sep 2010 12:21:00 +0000

John, you said it all. The trust issue is the one that is slowly released. You cannot trust anyone in the church. Jane even talked about becoming a mother to many in the church. She talked about being the adoptive mother of several that have risen up in leadership. I know these people would kill for Jane (I do mean literally). They closely protect her now. That in itself should give people warning. I had gotten to the point in the church thinking everyone was evil outside of the walls of the church and would drag you to hell. This is one reason if anyone ever leaves the walls of the church they are never trusted again and are cut off from the church family forever. The only way you can come back into the church is to meet with Jane and receive absolution and then only can you go back into the church. I have noted that money people are always allowed to come back into the church. Many of these people Jane would say they can never come back, but they always show back up. I am not in a church. I have been invited by many family members and friends who know my history. But, I just cannot do it. I want to, but do not trust them. Sad, but over time, it will change. Thanks for bringing up these points, John.