I have a somewhat Religious narcissist `friend’. He will interject religon into conversations that are not even remotely religious. He tells me he’s going to enter the ministry, but only for a religion that will allow him to get married. He judges me for my lack of knowledge of the beliefs of his version of religion (I say `version’ because he tends to mix and match certain religious concepts to fit his needs).

Yet he shoplifts and does online scams.

“Don’t eat so much! That’s Gluttony! A sin!”
He scams people on eBay, selling stuff, getting the money, but not sending the items.
“You hate gang members / KKK / Neo-nazis for killing innocent people and want them to get the death penalty! That’s the sin of anger! Have forgiveness!”
He shoplifts Dungeons & Dragons manuals from a gaming store.
“Don’t look at pictures of beautiful women! That’s lust!”
I lent him a $17 Pirates of The Caribbean video tape. Months later, when I tried to get it back, he lied right to my face and said that I freely `gave’ it to him.
“You need to change your wicked ways! I’m trying to save your soul!!”
“Save your own, dude.”

My thoughts on his religious “force field” is that he commits a crime, then prays for all he’s worth, thinking that his Righteous `Aura’ will protect him.

Before I get flamed… Me respecting religion, but not feeling bound by it? That’s okay, that’s legal.
Him belching religious stuff at me, yet he shoplifts and scams? That is unnaceptable by ANY standards.

Sorry if I rambled. I have that tendency.

We had no idea that people escape and are recaptured in WOFF. That is truly heartbreaking and it is a revelation to me that this goes on. In the ntcc people are taught that everything is by choice and free will. If you don’t like what we preach, there is the door. One of the main deceptions that they use in the ntcc is to convince people that they are free moral agents and the right choices that we make power the train that takes us to Glory. At surface this sounds good but it was a carefully crafted deception to keep people under the control of the ntcc leadership. We were not physically forced to stay in the ntcc but we were spiritually forced. They used our own fear of hell and steered us toward believing that what we were doing was our own decision and choice. It was every bit as effective as if they held us at gunpoint. It was driven into our minds that we were the last hope for mankind on earth, we were God’s chosen people, special and above all others on earth. We were drawn in by the preaching of the cross, and than we were introduced to a bunch of rules that left everyday individual decision making to the Leaders of the church. We couldn’t miss any church function or we loved the world more than Christ. We lived in communal compounds called Servicemen’s homes where we supposedly were free to come and go. It wasn’t that simple though. We had to ask permission to do just about anything. If the pastor of the church didn’t want you to do something he would publicly humiliate you to help you make a choice. It amazes me how they influenced through manipulation the choices that we were making and than they led us to believe that we were making those choices and we had to live with the consequences.

I wanted to share this perspective with you. The more I learn about your former cult, the more my eyes are opened to the full extent of what we have been through. The methods were different but the results seem to be very similar. Take care and keep up the good work.

Don and Ange

Don,

I appreciate your kind words and your contributions to the fight here and on your blog. “Perhaps RWD and JW have lied to themselves so many times that they override God’s conviction and actually believe their own lies.” I agree here. It is shocking and disgusting on the one hand and yet heart wrenching on the other.

There is a place in my heart to help those who don’t even realize there is help available and that there is such a need. When I hear of attempted escapes from WOFF that end in a “recapture” – it breaks my heart. There have been several in the past and some recently. Young folks, for the most part without transportation and support. Just the fact that folks have to resort to running away in the night or day and seek help from strangers to leave a supposed “Christian” church is surreal in itself. At times, Jane would boast of helping some to leave, those who she had already cast an expendable. But, certain ones must make their efforts to leave in secret. SAD, TRAGIC and very REVEALING- Yes, Jane- you have such a deep intensive control over folks in your version of the “love of God”- that they run from you and you send your deceived dogs to track them down. Are these the results of the “sweet smelling aroma” of a life dedicated to teaching others about Jesus? Let the tragic facts speak for themsleves.
God help us all.
John

It’s always a learning experience and a pleasure to read your writings. I was thinking about what you had to say about JW’s Narcissism and how that you feel she honestly thinks she is a blessing. I’ve struggled with that idea in the leadership of the ntcc although many others may disagree with me. While I believe that there is a certain amount of searing of the conscience that takes place in the life of a narcissistic religious cult leader, I also wonder how much of what they do is premeditated and calculated. Maybe some of the destruction that they cause can be written off in their own mind as collateral damage. It’s a mystery to me also, but I have to believe that deep down inside they either have no conscience whatsoever or they deliberately and knowingly do what they do.

I look at R.W. Davis of the ntcc and have a very hard time understanding what goes on inside of the man. I think that someone like him who makes a living destroying and using folks has got to have an ice cold heart and is as far away from God as a person can possibly be. Looking at his history it seems plain and simple that he just uses Christianity for monetary gain. He has made so many decisions that have adversely affected peoples lives that you wonder if he really believes deep down in his heart that everything is alright between him and God. I have a hard time believing that he actually thinks he’s helping folks. It’s possible I suppose and I’ve been wrong about things in the past, but my take on the subject is that doing the right thing does not play into his decision making process. Perhaps RWD and JW have lied to themselves so many times that they override God’s conviction and actually believe their own lies.

We love your blog and read it frequently. We believe you really care about folks that are enduring what you endured in your prior situation and that you are helping them with the facts that you share. Take care and keep fighting the good fight.

Don and Ange