Comments on: The “It Hurts” Post by Jan Groenveld https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2012/02/the-it-hurts-post-by-jan-groenveld/ Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:38:19 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.9.4 By: Ben https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2012/02/the-it-hurts-post-by-jan-groenveld/comment-page-1/#comment-8656 Tue, 21 Feb 2012 05:38:19 +0000 http://religiouscultsinfo.com/?p=4906#comment-8656 When the police came in 2000 they said they had no jurisdiction on Old Flynn Rd. I reminded them the city did pick up our trash. That made no difference to them.

In 2006 when my 3 children ran off from my care I called “small town friendly” Rutherford County Sheriffs Department to report that they had run off and I did not know where they were. There was a large area of woods and hwy 221 which a lot of trucks use close by. There reply was “had they been missing 24 hours” there was a refusal to assist in the search of my children. At that time my children were will under 18. I found them hiding behind a store across 221 hwy. They had a cell phone, wonder who they were talking to.

Outside of needing any help regarding my children the employees of the county have been nice

I don’t expect any help in that county from any agency.

]]> By: Nancy https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2012/02/the-it-hurts-post-by-jan-groenveld/comment-page-1/#comment-8645 Mon, 20 Feb 2012 21:23:12 +0000 http://religiouscultsinfo.com/?p=4906#comment-8645 Nancy Jo your husband may want to have someone from the local police department do a welfare check on his children. I’m sure that when they get there things will be just wonderful but you never know what may be said in a private moment. I have spoken with survivors that have left that say they wish they would have been given an opportunity for just one moment to have someone to tell they wanted out. God bless you all.

]]> By: Ben https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2012/02/the-it-hurts-post-by-jan-groenveld/comment-page-1/#comment-8586 Thu, 16 Feb 2012 05:59:04 +0000 http://religiouscultsinfo.com/?p=4906#comment-8586 More:
http://www.rickross.com/reference/wordoffaith/wordoffaith75.html
http://www.rickross.com/reference/wordoffaith/wordoffaith74.html
http://www.watchman.org/cults/spindale.htm
http://www.cultnews.com/?p=1522

]]> By: Ben https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2012/02/the-it-hurts-post-by-jan-groenveld/comment-page-1/#comment-8580 Thu, 16 Feb 2012 02:51:59 +0000 http://religiouscultsinfo.com/?p=4906#comment-8580 Sydney,

Some links to help you understand what I went through. Most custody cases take at most a few hours. Mine took 5 whole days.
http://www.nospank.net/n-g76.htm
http://www.rickross.com/reference/wordoffaith/wordoffaith2.html
http://www.religionnewsblog.com/10666/woff-prayer-issues-debated
http://www.rickross.com/reference/wordoffaith/wordoffaith72.html

]]> By: Nancy Jo https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2012/02/the-it-hurts-post-by-jan-groenveld/comment-page-1/#comment-8573 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 19:44:56 +0000 http://religiouscultsinfo.com/?p=4906#comment-8573 Thank you John for clarifying my husbands experiences. You are correct that his children are over 13, the youngest being 16. His children have grown up in WOFF and this is all they have known. I will not go into details, however all you said is true. My husband recently heard from a fellow member who at the age of 19 was able to escape. He reported that my husbands oldest daughter had a “hard year” but would not elaborate. This was not easy for my husband to hear. He has made attempts to contact them without success. Our visit last month being the most upsetting as he was told his children did not want to see him. The last he saw them was over 6 years ago. We believe however, that God will work in their lives, giving them the freedom that a child of God should have and deserves. We believe with all our hearts that this will come to be. If anyone has similar experiences of older children in WOFF we would be anxious to hear and also to provide prayer and support.

]]> By: Admin https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2012/02/the-it-hurts-post-by-jan-groenveld/comment-page-1/#comment-8572 Wed, 15 Feb 2012 17:56:57 +0000 http://religiouscultsinfo.com/?p=4906#comment-8572 In reply to Sydney.

Sydney,

Thank you for taking time to read and comment. As a further explanation, the father in this drama had been through an extensive and very public custody battle several years ago. He is familiar with many things that I am not about that issue. If my memory serves me correctly, all of his children are over 13- maybe even over 15…? Also, he knew, as many former members have found out that WOFF exercises their private property rights and have used them to keep members and others from seeing each other… Please, keep praying as many sincere people have had relationships destroyed over the practices of this group.

John

]]> By: Sydney https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2012/02/the-it-hurts-post-by-jan-groenveld/comment-page-1/#comment-8558 Tue, 14 Feb 2012 19:29:04 +0000 http://religiouscultsinfo.com/?p=4906#comment-8558 After reading the post about the ex member and his new wife I would like to just say that there are ways to see the children if he wants to see them. If the children are under the age of 13 he can have law enforcement go pick the children up and he could see them. It is sad to think that these people don’t have the common sense to know how to fight for what is legally theirs. No one should ever speak on behalf of children unlessit is a parent.
The father still has rights that need to be exercised and he should do what ever is necessary to be a father. I can even imagine anyhow a non family member could make me turn and walk away from my flesh and blood. I will pray at things in inside of this horrible place be stopped so that families can be reunited. God bless them all. Thank you for your informative blog. Keep up the good work.

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