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		By: Ben		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Look, my dad might have a great front and know this and that, but remember he was taught everything he knows. Excellent english, cooking, working, etc. he learned all of it through decades of pie in the sky attempts to strike it big. He always moved from one enterprise to the next in an attempt to reconcile the massive mistakes he made as a young man. The funny smiling Gilberto that you all know with the Cheesecakes and impressions is really a man with a dark and loathsome past. I wouldn&#039;t be saying this if I hadn&#039;t heard dozens of stories from both sides of the family and stories lined up from relatives who aren&#039;t even in contact with each other. The details about the cocaine and abuse aren&#039;t relevant, and I mean he did just lose his firstborn, but what I am getting at is that it does not surprise me that he is able to do a radio show 24 hours after his son&#039;s death because he is a ruthless bastard at heart. When I was homeless 4 years ago and asked him to send me some money for food, he yelled at me and hung up. My own father; when George was homeless and asked for food, he yelled at him and hung up. 

I know it sounds heartless given the time, but I honestly have absolutely no soft spot in my heart for my father. I am torn up about my mother, I can not imagine how hard she must be taking her son&#039;s death, but for Gilberto, he made his choice to alienate himself from Geo and I the day they announced his engagement. We were never happy with him marrying that lady, and the problems in our family are 100% attributed to her getting married to my dad. It is because of her that I wasn&#039;t able to spend more time with Gil before he died, and there is nothing that will change my mind about that. When HER obituary is posted, my reaction will be entirely different from that of my brothers, and I can guarantee that she will go out with silence, not a word of her name or doings will be mentioned online or any where because she did do nothing but destroy and separate and wreck havoc on a family that was otherwise successful. 

Dad, for when your church&#039;s cyber spies begin their daily illegal attack on our privacy and run across this post: Life has been nothing but great for me up here in Chicago. I am now married, a father, successful, and most importantly the happiest I have ever been. If the death of your firstborn is not a wake up call for you to reconsider what you&#039;ve been doing, I do not know what else is. I know why you haven&#039;t called me, and I know you are burying Gilbert before I have an opportunity to curtail any of your endeavors. You guys aren&#039;t these slick operatives pulling off fast ones behind our backs. Your church&#039;s official strategy book is greatly outdated, we all know what you guys are up to and I am going to stop at nothing until real justice has been served.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Look, my dad might have a great front and know this and that, but remember he was taught everything he knows. Excellent english, cooking, working, etc. he learned all of it through decades of pie in the sky attempts to strike it big. He always moved from one enterprise to the next in an attempt to reconcile the massive mistakes he made as a young man. The funny smiling Gilberto that you all know with the Cheesecakes and impressions is really a man with a dark and loathsome past. I wouldn&#8217;t be saying this if I hadn&#8217;t heard dozens of stories from both sides of the family and stories lined up from relatives who aren&#8217;t even in contact with each other. The details about the cocaine and abuse aren&#8217;t relevant, and I mean he did just lose his firstborn, but what I am getting at is that it does not surprise me that he is able to do a radio show 24 hours after his son&#8217;s death because he is a ruthless bastard at heart. When I was homeless 4 years ago and asked him to send me some money for food, he yelled at me and hung up. My own father; when George was homeless and asked for food, he yelled at him and hung up. </p>
<p>I know it sounds heartless given the time, but I honestly have absolutely no soft spot in my heart for my father. I am torn up about my mother, I can not imagine how hard she must be taking her son&#8217;s death, but for Gilberto, he made his choice to alienate himself from Geo and I the day they announced his engagement. We were never happy with him marrying that lady, and the problems in our family are 100% attributed to her getting married to my dad. It is because of her that I wasn&#8217;t able to spend more time with Gil before he died, and there is nothing that will change my mind about that. When HER obituary is posted, my reaction will be entirely different from that of my brothers, and I can guarantee that she will go out with silence, not a word of her name or doings will be mentioned online or any where because she did do nothing but destroy and separate and wreck havoc on a family that was otherwise successful. </p>
<p>Dad, for when your church&#8217;s cyber spies begin their daily illegal attack on our privacy and run across this post: Life has been nothing but great for me up here in Chicago. I am now married, a father, successful, and most importantly the happiest I have ever been. If the death of your firstborn is not a wake up call for you to reconsider what you&#8217;ve been doing, I do not know what else is. I know why you haven&#8217;t called me, and I know you are burying Gilbert before I have an opportunity to curtail any of your endeavors. You guys aren&#8217;t these slick operatives pulling off fast ones behind our backs. Your church&#8217;s official strategy book is greatly outdated, we all know what you guys are up to and I am going to stop at nothing until real justice has been served.</p>
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		By: Admin		</title>
		<link>https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2014/01/gilbert-talks-taxes-on-wcab/comment-page-1/#comment-12478</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 04:19:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2014/01/gilbert-talks-taxes-on-wcab/comment-page-1/#comment-12477&quot;&gt;Randall Jones&lt;/a&gt;.

Randall, 

According to others in the community, he has the respect of many leaders in other churches. It is beyond me what kind of hex JW has on him. 

John]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2014/01/gilbert-talks-taxes-on-wcab/comment-page-1/#comment-12477">Randall Jones</a>.</p>
<p>Randall, </p>
<p>According to others in the community, he has the respect of many leaders in other churches. It is beyond me what kind of hex JW has on him. </p>
<p>John</p>
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		By: Randall Jones		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Randall Jones]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jan 2014 03:24:17 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Several WOFF companies had advertised on the radio station in the past with Jane&#039;s approval. So, they have made Jim Bishop a &quot;friend&quot; of WOFF, since he will take their advertisements.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Several WOFF companies had advertised on the radio station in the past with Jane&#8217;s approval. So, they have made Jim Bishop a &#8220;friend&#8221; of WOFF, since he will take their advertisements.</p>
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		By: Admin		</title>
		<link>https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2014/01/gilbert-talks-taxes-on-wcab/comment-page-1/#comment-12460</link>

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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jan 2014 03:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2014/01/gilbert-talks-taxes-on-wcab/comment-page-1/#comment-12442&quot;&gt;Jon Smith&lt;/a&gt;.

How could I have left THE CHEESECAKE talents? What was I thinking? Thank you, Jon for reminding us all of the delicious culinary delights put out by Gilbert Carmona! 

I will post the show from Jan. 4th. 

John]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2014/01/gilbert-talks-taxes-on-wcab/comment-page-1/#comment-12442">Jon Smith</a>.</p>
<p>How could I have left THE CHEESECAKE talents? What was I thinking? Thank you, Jon for reminding us all of the delicious culinary delights put out by Gilbert Carmona! </p>
<p>I will post the show from Jan. 4th. </p>
<p>John</p>
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		By: Jon Smith		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jon Smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Jan 2014 21:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Great story! I do have fond memories of Gilbert when I was at WOFF.  With such a energetic personality there was never a dull moment when Gilbert was around. One of his talents was making &quot;Chicago&quot; style cheesecakes. I might have given to lust a time or two while eating a piece of Giblert&#039;s cheesecake, but have since repented and found forgiveness in my heart!  It was very good cheesecake!  

      As stated in this article I do agree that it is very interesting indeed that Gilbert would be authorized by WOFF leadership to  participate in a radio program. The radio station, WCAB, is a class D AM station with a 1 kilo-watt daytime and a 228 watt nightime signal so most likely, their radio signal doesn&#039;t even get beyond Rutherford County&#039;s borders.  Perhaps there is a connection between the station&#039;s owner, Jim Bishop and some of the leadership at WOFF.  I don&#039;t know, but I never thought that WOFF leadership would authorize Gilbert or any other member for that matter the liberty to use commerical media, especially since WOFF members can be punished for listening to the radio, watching television or posessing a newspaper.  I think John has shared a story or two on this website about what happens when you read a newspaper while a member of  WOFF.  I&#039;ll never forget an incident that happened to me while I was working at one of the WOFF construction companies. One day I was working at the home of one of Jane Whaley&#039;s Aunts. While working that day, her Aunt who is a very kind lady but obviously doesn&#039;t understand that WOFF members are forbidden from reading newspapers, handed me that days paper. There was an article in the paper about the church that she wanted me to read, so she gave me the paper and told me to keep it. I seem to remember that the article portrayed the church in a postivie light.  Not knowing what to say to her, I just folded the paper and put it in my truck when I left her home that day. I never even looked at the paper. Somehow word got back to Jane that her Aunt had given me the newspaper. I believe Jane&#039;s Aunt had told Jane that she had given me the paper.  Anyway, before you could say &quot;Jimminey Cricket&quot; I was called to Jane&#039;s office and harshly reprimanded for receivng the paper.  Now back to Gilbert&#039;s radio show.  John&#039;s article does bring up many interesting questions concerning a member of WOFF utilizing media to promote their occupation.   I do know that this day and time many Evangelists are using Short Wave Radio to reach the masses with their gospel message. Perhaps this is a new step forward for WOFF to get their message out to the masses via the airwaves. Having more victims, er I mean members certainly can&#039;t hurt their bottom line! I would be very interested in finding out what he says on the program.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great story! I do have fond memories of Gilbert when I was at WOFF.  With such a energetic personality there was never a dull moment when Gilbert was around. One of his talents was making &#8220;Chicago&#8221; style cheesecakes. I might have given to lust a time or two while eating a piece of Giblert&#8217;s cheesecake, but have since repented and found forgiveness in my heart!  It was very good cheesecake!  </p>
<p>      As stated in this article I do agree that it is very interesting indeed that Gilbert would be authorized by WOFF leadership to  participate in a radio program. The radio station, WCAB, is a class D AM station with a 1 kilo-watt daytime and a 228 watt nightime signal so most likely, their radio signal doesn&#8217;t even get beyond Rutherford County&#8217;s borders.  Perhaps there is a connection between the station&#8217;s owner, Jim Bishop and some of the leadership at WOFF.  I don&#8217;t know, but I never thought that WOFF leadership would authorize Gilbert or any other member for that matter the liberty to use commerical media, especially since WOFF members can be punished for listening to the radio, watching television or posessing a newspaper.  I think John has shared a story or two on this website about what happens when you read a newspaper while a member of  WOFF.  I&#8217;ll never forget an incident that happened to me while I was working at one of the WOFF construction companies. One day I was working at the home of one of Jane Whaley&#8217;s Aunts. While working that day, her Aunt who is a very kind lady but obviously doesn&#8217;t understand that WOFF members are forbidden from reading newspapers, handed me that days paper. There was an article in the paper about the church that she wanted me to read, so she gave me the paper and told me to keep it. I seem to remember that the article portrayed the church in a postivie light.  Not knowing what to say to her, I just folded the paper and put it in my truck when I left her home that day. I never even looked at the paper. Somehow word got back to Jane that her Aunt had given me the newspaper. I believe Jane&#8217;s Aunt had told Jane that she had given me the paper.  Anyway, before you could say &#8220;Jimminey Cricket&#8221; I was called to Jane&#8217;s office and harshly reprimanded for receivng the paper.  Now back to Gilbert&#8217;s radio show.  John&#8217;s article does bring up many interesting questions concerning a member of WOFF utilizing media to promote their occupation.   I do know that this day and time many Evangelists are using Short Wave Radio to reach the masses with their gospel message. Perhaps this is a new step forward for WOFF to get their message out to the masses via the airwaves. Having more victims, er I mean members certainly can&#8217;t hurt their bottom line! I would be very interested in finding out what he says on the program.</p>
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		By: Lahna		</title>
		<link>https://religiouscultsinfo.com/2014/01/gilbert-talks-taxes-on-wcab/comment-page-1/#comment-12400</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lahna]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jan 2014 12:17:40 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[What a surprise! Hypocrites! You know, it&#039;s almost comical. They do not believe or celebrate Christmas, yet they spent months making and selling decorative Christmas motif pillows.  Anyone besides me remember working until all hours making pillows? They do not believe or celebrate Christmas, yet, they eat Christmas cookies and/or candy. I was there. They don&#039;t believe in watching TV or listening to radio, yet waking up to the TV on in the wee hours in a room with closed doors, was a nightly occurrence. Never mind the radio when driving down the road. This one is the kicker. Eating a decadent desert containing a common liquor. Or maybe, this one is the kicker. Leigh Valentine selling and wearing cosmetics, that were not permitted to be used by the ladies in WOFF.  Every old barn needs some paint. I&#039;m not sure about dying hair.  Must be okay, otherwise, there would be a lot of heads with black roots. Oh, just one more. How about being as big as the side of a barn? Yes, hypocritical would be an accurate description of what I saw.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What a surprise! Hypocrites! You know, it&#8217;s almost comical. They do not believe or celebrate Christmas, yet they spent months making and selling decorative Christmas motif pillows.  Anyone besides me remember working until all hours making pillows? They do not believe or celebrate Christmas, yet, they eat Christmas cookies and/or candy. I was there. They don&#8217;t believe in watching TV or listening to radio, yet waking up to the TV on in the wee hours in a room with closed doors, was a nightly occurrence. Never mind the radio when driving down the road. This one is the kicker. Eating a decadent desert containing a common liquor. Or maybe, this one is the kicker. Leigh Valentine selling and wearing cosmetics, that were not permitted to be used by the ladies in WOFF.  Every old barn needs some paint. I&#8217;m not sure about dying hair.  Must be okay, otherwise, there would be a lot of heads with black roots. Oh, just one more. How about being as big as the side of a barn? Yes, hypocritical would be an accurate description of what I saw.</p>
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