Comments on: She has no self awareness….

By: Admin

Admin — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 17:09:29 +0000

In reply to MEM.

MEM,
Sad to hear and have confirmed what many have suspected… I would be curious to know if the CPA was JD, Gilbert Carmona or RS? Or was it someone else? Possibly LJ? You can email me and let me know if you consider it worthy of your time. Jane did declare during a service that she checked the tithe records and wanted to know who was giving to God and who was not. Her control of the member-owned companies allowed her to know what many were paid and then she could do the math… since she had been a math teacher… right? Thank you for reading and if you have further experiences to share, I feel certain the readers here would appreciate them.

Again, Thank you.
John

By: MEM

MEM — Fri, 28 Mar 2014 16:46:25 +0000

I have been reading your posts for the past several days in reflection of my time there. Those who have never attended can’t grasp the length of time we stayed because of the ludicrous practices…but if you read your posts (I have mostly read those from 2010), it paints a comprehensive picture of how you get so interwoven. I found a particular resonance with the financial posts, as that seems the cornerstone of the ministry- money and power. It reminded me of an event that happened (one of the final proverbial straws) that ultimately led to our leaving. One of the church CPAs did my husband’s and my taxes. When he returned them to us, we we admonished for not tithing 10% of our income (which was a ridiculously small amount to begin with), let alone not giving any extra for offering. We were given a STATEMENT of how much tithe we owed the church because our tax return and the church record of our tithe amount did not match, and were told that “the judgement of God would be on our lives” if we did not give what was owed to God. It was followed up by a meeting later that week with the church secretary, who confirmed that she had spoken with the accountant and was making sure that we followed up with our payments. The scary thing is…we never gave the accountant a tithe statement. He either got it from the church or they gave it to him. Either way, the fact that they were in collaboration is startling.

By: AJ

AJ — Sat, 22 Mar 2014 02:23:47 +0000

Yes, another great post, John. Personally I tend to think JW is totally self-aware…but the WOFF members she has control over are not self-aware due to the reasons you stated above. JW knows she has a good thing going and isn’t about to let it go…WOFF is a totalitarian regime with JW as dictator. However, it’s just a matter of time…and the walls of WOFF will all come tumbling down. She can’t keep up this level of control indefinitely especially now with the internet/social media. When it does finally, gratefully, end…we outside of WOFF will gladly pick up the shattered pieces of our loved ones’ lives and just simply love them and figure it all out together. Thank you for your continuing hard work to keep the truth out about what is going on at WOFF out in the public arena and for being a safe haven for anyone who would like to get away from WOFF. We are so grateful to you.

By: Arthur H. Thiry, Sweden

Arthur H. Thiry, Sweden — Thu, 20 Mar 2014 17:23:15 +0000

Hi John!

Great post. You just hit it. It is about control and nothing else. True freedom requires taking one hundered percent (100%) responsibility for your own life. Nothing less. I had a long wonderful conversation with my youngest son who will be 21 tomorrow. In the course of the conversation I said “I don’t bow to other people’s devils, I learned long ago to remove myself from their proximity as smoothly as possible.” This included and includes Pope Jane and her coherts. The way things are looking with public employees including police and people in public office in those counties you are truly a lighthouse of freedom for those in WOFF bondage, recognized or unrecognized. Arthur