The more we uncover about the leadership of our former cult, the more we realize that it was never about Jesus. When I heard you describe Greg spouting off about why nothing was being said about Jesus, it was enough to make my oatmeal hit the wall. I’m sorry, but when you have been run through the gauntlet of hypocrisy, double standards and religious mind manipulation in a so called church it has nothing to do with Jesus, or God. You can scream into someones ears for two hours and emotionally and spiritually damage children for the rest of their lives, but please don’t do it in the name of Jesus.

I know that many will probably disagree with what I’m about to say, but I’m not shooting from the hip. Most cult leaders have a history of making large amounts of money and in many cases they use Jesus and the sincerity of those who really are wanting God in their lives, to cover up not only their lust and greed for money and power, but many other dark sins that nobody wants to see or hear about. Many of the holiness movements that require outward appearance as proof of salvation have presented an appearance to the world that hides what is really behind it all. In the NTCC young girls are made to dress like the Quaker Oatmeal Girl. They are deprived of a normal childhood and married off at a very young age. There are so many accounts of sexual molestations, rape and abuse, but the victims always on every account blame themselves. This type of behavior is condoned by the leadership and many of the leaders are guilty of it themselves. The church is a front to cover up their horrific sins. The Sincere Christians that want to follow Christ are manipulated and they end up giving all of their energy, finances and time to a group that claims to be God’s last move upon the earth. I spoke with an X-member who was a dear friend to me the other day. He stayed in the cult for about 20 years, and he found our blog on the internet. He told me that he just got burnt out and he and his wife left the church, and he made it a point to tell me that they were not being critical of the church or it’s leadership in anyway, but that it was due to his own lack of dedication to God. I told him that that was exactly what they want you to believe. They instill this in the mind of every believer so that if they leave they will blame themselves and will not further investigate the church or it’s leaders. They teach you that any failure is your own and you only need to look in the mirror and you will find the cause of all your problems. There is no accountability to the leadership. They take no responsibility for your failure and when they are done using you, don’t expect them to come visit you or try to understand what you are going through.

John, I’m sorry to vent like this, but reading the plight of the members of your personal family and friends in your former cult, it just stirs up so much inside of me. I’ve blathered on enough, but I want to thank you for the seemingly tireless effort you have put forward to help others. When it’s all said and done, I really believe that if you can reach a small handful of people, and help them escape from the bondage they are in, than you will be fulfilling one very important commandment of God and that is to love your neighbor as yourself. It is so hard to convince even one person. We have people testifying of rape and sexual abuse suffered at the hands of the leaders of the NTCC and people still are blind and living in a state of denial. Even with convictions of some X ministers for committing unthinkable acts of raping their own Daughter or molesting children or admissions of using sexual incest by present leaders and pastors, none of which have denied the allegations, people still choose to turn a blind eye.

Our thoughts and prayers are for your family and friends to escape and salvage what they can of what is left of their lives. It sickens me that people are made to suffer in the name of Christ.

Your Companions in Tribulation-

Don and Ange.

Lahna,

You are too kind. These events are a team effort. Actually, by their actions, they give us a lot to work with. Sad subject matter, but plentiful nonetheless.

John

Jon,

Thank you for the encouragement and help questioning the whole surreal WOFF experience. The sick need doctors, those with car trouble need mechanics, when your plumbing breaks you call a plumber… and we call our attorneys to chat? I don’t think so. When I call attorneys it is for legal advice and I know it is not for free. Do WOFF members who provide services for Jane bill by the hour or give her a life time discount? (Their life’s time) Something to consider if you are in their attorney farm system coming up through their attorney production program. How will you ever pay-off your debt to Jane?

John

Thank you for publishing the highlights of this meeting. As an ex-WOFFer, I follow the posts on your website on a regular basis. I applaud you and the many others who are dilligently working to break down the facade that WOFF has so meticulously built to cover up the cruelty, harmful control and damage they inject into so many lives. The public needs to be informed.

There are so many issues about WOFF that need to be addressed. However, one in particular that is alarming is the gathering of license plate numbers. As you stated in your post, it is clear to me that local law enforcement or the DMV need to investigate why WOFF is collecting license plate numbers in a public place. It seems like collecting license plate numbers would be useless unless someone in local law enforcement, DMV or some other state organization is providing WOFF with access to the State’s databases to run searches of these license plate numbers. This is very concerning and should be investigated. Of course, it seems fairly clear why Jane allowed so many young members at WOFF to pursue careers as lawyers. I suppose this is one of those cases. The way I see it, if you’re not doing anything that would require you to have a lawyer on staff, then why would you have so many lawyers at your beckoning call? I think the question answers itself.

Keep up the good work John!

Jon Smith

here is a review of the forum by rccatalyst- http://rccatalyst.com/?p=16007

Main points covered well…

John

I know I speak for all of us whose lives have been affected by Jane Whaley, you are truly a hero. Thank you from all of us. And thank you to those who participated with you in bringing forth the “real truth”.

Randall,

Thank you, for your support. This was five survivors telling only the parts of their stories that could be expressed publicly. Imagine all the injured survivors from day one, adults and children, members and estranged family members, sharing the entirety of their damaged experiences –gathered in one space and JW having to listen to them all- every word, every tear, every expression of fear, anger, angst and hurt. Do we have enough time for that? How would that be measured? After all there is “nothing to hide…”

John

I would love to see the businesses within WOFF exposed for their slave like mentatlity towards their workers.

Bless you all and thank you for standing up and sharing….I know how difficult it can be.

AJ,

Saturday was a team effort and we are glad others have benefited. Greg’s original introduction included his undying endorsement of Sam and Jane and how long he as known them and how they have helped him. His commercial was short lived, but he got his 2 cents in before the tide turned. He has been under the spell I dare say longer than anyone else in the room on Saturday. To that we answer- “It is never too late to wake up and leave and reclaim your life!” Steve Hassan

John